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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Photos Reply with quote

Just posted some photos of my tank... some more coming up... so you all can get an idea.... I took some pics of the joints on top of the tank. There is a central panel on top of the tank.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: The filtration chronicles. Reply with quote

Today was another 'nightmare day' changing my Tetra filter. I started at 9am and by the time it was 2pm, I still could not get the filter started. My arms are acheing from the jumpstart pumping and my entire floor is soaking wet!
Had to call my office to tell them that I would be late coming in because my aquarium filter would not start - I don't want to imagine my local boss's face when he hears that.

Anyways, I bought the Tetra filters nearly 7 years ago, my first and this will be the absolute LAST time I ever touch them. NO MORE.

Now I'm switching to OHF and if that does not work on my tank, it's going to be an Eheim. This filtration issue has made fish-keeping such a stress for me! It's actually made me think of giving it up, since I can't even start the silly filters right.

My poor fish.... + I have one Ryukin fish that's recovering from an illlness right now... I don't want to imagine what it will have to go through for the next few days with 1 filter less. I feel so sorry about it.

No, No more nightmares. And no more torturing my fish.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure what do you mean you cannot jump start your filter. What is the issue here, can you elaborate to see whether I can offer any help.

As for you setup to install a OHF you have to move forward your light and give space for the OHF to sit on the edges and center support.

Is that you in the pic doing the tank, or your maid?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most prob ur Cannister's O-ring gone case already. Thats y u couldn't prime it. But then again, 7 yrs old filter, time for a new 1 liao!

Get the OHF n dun forget a powerhead or pump to power the thing too. I think a 3000L/hr 1 would do fine. Get an atman if u dun wanna spend too much or an ehiem if u wan reliability n serviceability. Not forgeting the pipings to connect them together.

Get extra trays too! Probably another 2 layers would be good. But depends on u ,cos some ppl find it unsightly. Just use cheapo bioballs for a start n not forgeting coral chips for the bottom layer to buffer the water too.

Drop the canister idea. They choke n stink like hell when u service them.

Try asking for ppl to accompany u to get ur setup. I think LLC would be very glad to help! disagree
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: The filtration chronicles. Reply with quote

Tonkaholics wrote:
Today was another 'nightmare day' changing my Tetra filter. I started at 9am and by the time it was 2pm, I still could not get the filter started. My arms are acheing from the jumpstart pumping and my entire floor is soaking wet!


Is it a canister filter? The silver one below the tank? The sure-fire way of priming a canister is to have both the in & out tubes and canister prefilled with water (you can do this in the toilet), plug it to the power supply and it should run. 10min job max! smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your tank looks long, so when get a OHF, make sure the rule of one power head to 3 trays the most, more then that you may find the water not able to reach the end very fast as times go. See the pic set-up.

For canister, if the problem cannot restart means you do not have a vacuum suction. Note that canister works by means of vacuum similar to when you siphon water out during water change. So inlet tubing and outlet tubing and canister must form a continuation water flow without air, the motor head is just helping to push the water back. Hope you understand this logic. So when you empty the canister and clean them, you need to have an inlet water siphon out into the canister till the water is fully filled, do ensure as much bubble is rid of as possible, then you on the motor head and water would be push through the rainbar. To facilitate this suction siphon during water change the best is to have an inlet and outlet ON/OFF valve, so you would not wet the whole floor during maintenance. Alot of people struggle with this because they don't fully understand how canister works. Hope my explanation is clear enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you young gentleman, don't just talk. Offer your help to a "damsel in distress". Especially those staying in Bedok area.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said we are all "Gentleman".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HNLim wrote:
All you young gentleman, don't just talk. Offer your help to a "damsel in distress". Especially those staying in Bedok area.


I am also a damsel mah. Check out my avatar and you will know. HOT ah? love
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oi, Jack Neo pattern come out already? See no touch ok? strongly disagree
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: The filtration chronicles. Reply with quote

Tonkaholics wrote:
Today was another 'nightmare day' changing my Tetra filter. I started at 9am and by the time it was 2pm, I still could not get the filter started. My arms are acheing from the jumpstart pumping and my entire floor is soaking wet!
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Sure sounds like the nightmares I had. It had to be canister filters.

I own 4 canister filters and all from cheap brand called "Dolphin". Recently one of them couldn't jumpstart, so I added a submersible pump to the bottom of my fibreglass tank and connected its output to the input of the canister filter to get the canister filter running, running, and still running.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LauLanChu wrote:
Your tank looks long, so when get a OHF, make sure the rule of one power head to 3 trays the most, more then that you may find the water not able to reach the end very fast as times go. See the pic set-up.

For canister, if the problem cannot restart means you do not have a vacuum suction. Note that canister works by means of vacuum similar to when you siphon water out during water change. So inlet tubing and outlet tubing and canister must form a continuation water flow without air, the motor head is just helping to push the water back. Hope you understand this logic. So when you empty the canister and clean them, you need to have an inlet water siphon out into the canister till the water is fully filled, do ensure as much bubble is rid of as possible, then you on the motor head and water would be push through the rainbar. To facilitate this suction siphon during water change the best is to have an inlet and outlet ON/OFF valve, so you would not wet the whole floor during maintenance. Alot of people struggle with this because they don't fully understand how canister works. Hope my explanation is clear enough.

Do you mean the valve that controls the flow volume like the ones I see on my Dolphin canister filters ? If it is, water could still come out even if I switch to lowest (or is it "off" ?).

Anyway, just to share, nowadays I tend to handle canister filters in the following manner :

1. Put canister filter into a tub so that floor won't be wet.
2. Clip the input intake and output to something that is above the tank water level.
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Do you mean the valve that controls the flow volume like the ones I see on my Dolphin canister filters ? If it is, water could still come out even if I switch to lowest (or is it "off" ?).

Difficult to explain without diagram or pic. You know for the canister to work you need to maintain the siphon water from tank to canister, the vacuum got to be maintained. So when you unplug the hose from the canister for maintenance the water would rush out from the siphon hose. If you have an ON/OFF valve in between the hose and canister you can off the valve and maintain the siphon vacuum and we can unplug hose from canister without wetting the flow too much. Hope that is clear.
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