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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Steve. I will follow your advice.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi bros, my wakin with a jikin tail has torn fins and blood streaks, but it is eating and healthy. Do u think that it is safe for me to put it out of quarantine? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better wait for it to heal.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone pls help!!! He is now swimming sideways but whenever i touch his body, he will start to swim normally but then he will swim 45 degrees sideways again! Someone pls advise me on wat to do! Pls!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't look good. Try to isolate and observe it for a while. Try melafix.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishyboy wrote:
Someone pls help!!! He is now swimming sideways but whenever i touch his body, he will start to swim normally but then he will swim 45 degrees sideways again! Someone pls advise me on wat to do! Pls!!!


Fishyboy, the batch of fish is very weak. i find similar problem to my wakin too. But i keep it in top notch water condition, and hopefully it can regain its health slowly.

Try not to disturb it, reduce its stress would really help.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hermanto wrote:
Bro Wolverine, how do you differentiate between true jikin and wakin with jikin tail?

Side track issue: how old are you?


In Japan, jikin is a variety of goldfish that is completely break away from wakin gene. A brand new mutated gene.

Aside from colour pattern and tail shape, the major different in the body shape is that the jikin has less back curve compared to wakin. Very short peduncle.

Me, still young, 38 only! smile smile smile
Why you ask??........i must have sound old while talking to Fishyboy?
Well, i missed my late-father. i just hope he understand how lucky to have his parent beside him sharing his hobby.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LauLanChu wrote:
Don't look good. Try to isolate and observe it for a while. Try melafix.


Thanks for ur help. Unfortunately he passed away..... Really miss this piece. Hope to find another nice one.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an observation, a jikin's tail is actually a wakin's tail with a full split that is somehow 'pressed down'. Pls do correct me if im wrong.

P.S. Hi bro wolverine, how r ur jikin doing?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there is more to the difference between jikin and wakin tail. I notice that the angle (seen from side view) is very different.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hermanto wrote:
I think there is more to the difference between jikin and wakin tail. I notice that the angle (seen from side view) is very different.


Pls do elaborate on the other difference of the wakin's tail from that of a jikin. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With pic will be better.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me grab the pictures from the internet. In sideview viewing, the jikin tail is more erect in such a way that is obviously different from the wakin.

https://www.hawaiibounty.com/images/wakin_goldfish.jpg

http://www.northeastgoldfish.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSCF17363.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakin seems to have inherent shorter lower caudal.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, guess, Wakin or Jikin?


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