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Hugoboss DRAGON


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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:18 pm Post subject: What you wish to see in tvr hobby? |
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Hey guys,
Just another to add on,
What do you wish to see happening in tvr in singapore?
***Hope all the tvr hobbyists don't just wait and see updates others who posts, pls do contribute to make it a beautiful hobby.
Thank you.  _________________
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LauLanChu MODERATOR


Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 10502 Location: Singapore, North
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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I am not sure I am the right person to comment. I think you should be able to envision how would the TVR scene in Sg 10 yrs down the road. My view is it would be stagnated unless we do something drastic. Hugoboss you the person to make the change. _________________ LauLanChu
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Hugoboss DRAGON


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| LauLanChu wrote: | | I am not sure I am the right person to comment. I think you should be able to envision how would the TVR scene in Sg 10 yrs down the road. My view is it would be stagnated unless we do something drastic. Hugoboss you the person to make the change. |
Hello Llc,
agree with ur point tat a maybe a drastic change might be needed. I hope to see more hobbyists participating in giving more suggestions to improve or better still getting involve rather than make noise when all is over. Personally, I wish everyone wld be more supportive and back up whoever or group that is gg to make tat step up raising the standard but imptly, egos has to be thrown out the window if it's gg to be successful.maybe and I said maybe, no one wants to be made that clown who tried to be a hero but here again, no singapore if no LKY. Surely it's not gg to take a couple
of years but like u said, moving in the right direction at least.
I wish the whole tvr gets larger in population before big events/workshops can be put up. Every forum needs to start creating awareness and the old boys need to unite as one and show strong support. _________________
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Hugoboss DRAGON


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'm now termed commercial hence ppl might think I have a hidden agenda trying but think about this, do u think if the government doesn't tax us, are we gg to have cut short, a beautiful singapore???? Most understand and believe in this point but only a handful when the community needs it, is willing to standby it. Wat i meant is hobbyists must have a bigger heart, be larger than life for It to flourish if nt we're gg back to the museum.
Whether U'll appreciate it or not, I'll leave it
to u to decide.  _________________
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Hugoboss DRAGON


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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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My wish is to turn tvr comps in sg into one tat has hundreds and hundreds quality entries tat the winners are uncertain and one tat is prestigious. Good venue, big crowd, beautiful trophies and very well hosted. Can happen? Definitely i say. Only with unity, "u can't break a bunch of chopsticks with your hand". Without unity, we'll all be fighting a losing battle.
Form a tvr committee. Put all the old boys together. _________________
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LauLanChu MODERATOR


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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Hugo,
You certainly has a great mind in view, and fully get my support though I am an 'outsider'. What I can see in Sg the TVR commercial are closing down one after another, with those old commercial no more existing or out of business. I really hope the new commcercial can sustain as I strongly believe that is the source of our local hobbyist can get good fish. TVR as known is an expensive hobby and that could be the reason is not viable in Sg context and culture, and people resort in self breeding and that could be the reason commcercial collaspe. Lacking of enough good fish base, self breeding I think is limited and perhaps hitting the dead end. We are a busy bunch with hectic life style, unlike the Jap or Thai who they can go fully into the hobby, so this hobby is Sg I think would still be limited, inview of the time commitment and cost. Not sure how you going to resolve the problem to fulfill your dream, believe not an easy one.
PS: Assure your comments would not be edited to my best as long as don't cross the line of sensitive issue. _________________ LauLanChu
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Hugoboss DRAGON


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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| LauLanChu wrote: | Hugo,
You certainly has a great mind in view, and fully get my support though I am an 'outsider'. What I can see in Sg the TVR commercial are closing down one after another, with those old commercial no more existing or out of business. I really hope the new commcercial can sustain as I strongly believe that is the source of our local hobbyist can get good fish. TVR as known is an expensive hobby and that could be the reason is not viable in Sg context and culture, and people resort in self breeding and that could be the reason commcercial collaspe. Lacking of enough good fish base, self breeding I think is limited and perhaps hitting the dead end. We are a busy bunch with hectic life style, unlike the Jap or Thai who they can go fully into the hobby, so this hobby is Sg I think would still be limited, inview of the time commitment and cost. Not sure how you going to resolve the problem to fulfill your dream, believe not an easy one.
PS: Assure your comments would not be edited to my best as long as don't cross the line of sensitive issue. |
No one is considered an outsider, moreover u're also into goldfish a longtime and maybe one day u'll be another tvr fanatic.u've done a good
job here I must say. Your commitment is first class. Commercial can sustain , though tvr many might think otherwise but whatever, you just have to believe in yourself. Sumtimes u just need everyone to have a bigger heart,sees ur point,put it in place together and hope for a brighter
tomorrow. If commercial fails yet again, it'll be a really really bad sign for the hobby. If i dun make any headway and the hobby doesn't make progress, I wld enjoy sleeping better. Regarding self breeding, time, space and real knowledge u must have it all to succeed. ALL!!!!it's sensitive so I leave out gg further. Lol. Expensive? Seriously not as expensive as it seems if u know what to buy and in moderation, it's not ex, serious. Hobbyists loves to buy a dream ranchu at sight which is why it becomes expensive plus it might not be as good as it is later on also depends on what one is after. Good grooming skill, good decent looking ranchu u get a ranchu tat is more impressive later on and cheaper than u buy one tat has all in place temporarily. _________________
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Hugoboss DRAGON


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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: |
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There's a thing I wld like to mention is one has to think less and not complicating tvr grooming. It's always good to learn and improve but imptly, get and keep the fundamentals right and Its good enough( there are many different methods and all produce good ranchu)so dun go crazy looking for some ranchu bible tat doesnt even exist) we can go on all day discussing abt the very fine points of ranchu grooming sounding extremely impressive but seriously, can anyone put it all together? I seriously doubt it,BIG TIME!!! Unless there is totally identical ranchus in every way or u keep one ranchu one pond and even tat, u still can't put it together and achieve the perfect result.
So keep it simple. Lol.... _________________
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LauLanChu MODERATOR


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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Good inputs. Hugoboss, frankly I really salute you in taking the plunge into the tough goldfish commercial mire that is tough in Sg context, particularly the TVR niche where alot of people don't even there to venture in. Thanks for bringing in the good fishes for the hobbyist, I got to say. Though there are people who might think negatively of you due to their perpectual hatred of commercial, just treat those as non existence as they are simply noises around that you can just ignore. Just do the right thing and the thing will turn out right. My personal advise is though we can dream big, we got to be also realistic at times. Do your own accessment and track carefully. _________________ LauLanChu
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Redhill Seng MARLIN

Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 35 Location: Redhill
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Hello Gentlemen, my thinking is gf appreciation cultivation tend towards side view ? But why koi appreication is happening in Singapore ? Just a newbie's opinion. |
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LauLanChu MODERATOR


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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Redhill Seng wrote: | | But why koi appreication is happening in Singapore ? Just a newbie's opinion. | Interesting question. Perhaps got to look at the difference between koi and TVR. What is their living span and when you have a pond and you decide to stock some fish for pleaure viewing, which one you will go for. Both are as pricy. _________________ LauLanChu
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Redhill Seng MARLIN

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Hello LLC, i will pick KOI in pond because of size & colour. I only saw red & white for TVR based on my limited knowledge. If TVR had more colour selection, will it be better or worst. |
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LauLanChu MODERATOR


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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure, but I think size reall matters. _________________ LauLanChu
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